OneNote Sync To OneDrive Explained

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To get the most power out of OneNote you want to be able to synchronise the contents of your notebooks between devices and possibly share them with other people.

Cloud based save, sync or sharing is a standard requirement for most software these days and OneNote is no exception by offering such a feature.

However, due to the smart way that OneNote handles synchronisation and coupled with the fact that it’s generally called OneDrive sync – OneDrive of course being Microsoft’s cloud storage platform – confusion can ensue when people start to migrate to using OneDrive for notebook sync.

What they tend to do is copy their notebooks from wherever they used to store them and then paste them into their OneDrive folder. This seems pretty sensible because it’s called OneDrive sync, so we just put the files into OneDrive, right?

Logical, yes. Correct, no.

Another common confusion is that within OneNote a user might create a new notebook ‘on OneDrive’ – this is the default option when creating new notebooks with OneNote – but when they come to browse their OneDrive folder to find the notebook, say they want to back it up or make a copy, they can’t find it.

Right here is the point where it can get slightly confusing and this is what I’d like to address with this article.

To be clear, the two confusions are:

  1. a notebook that is demonstrably ‘on OneDrive’  remains invisible when access is attempted using the OneNote app
  2. a notebook that was created by OneNote to be stored on your OneDrive cannot be found, instead there’s a strange file that’s only 1KB is size and it most definitely is not a OneNote notebook

Why is this?

There is a lot of magic going on behind the scenes when OneNote & OneDrive are syncing your changes between machines.

Normally, cloud sync services like OneDrive or Dropbox copy the newest version of the file up to the cloud and then send it out to all the other devices logged in to that account.

When OneNote does its native ‘OneDrive sync’ it actually only sends the changes up to the cloud which subsequently then sends these changes out to the other devices.

The important thing is that you have a full copy of the notebook on your local machine and it’s only the changes that are being synced.

That is to say the file isn’t actually on OneDrive as a file that you can open. You have the notebook stored on your machine (tucked away somewhere) and it just happens that it’s on the OneDrive servers where this special OneNote-only synchronisation occurs, hence the confusion.

The placeholder that sits within your OneDrive with the same name as the notebook is just a shortcut to the web-only OneNote view. If you open the file with a text editor you can see the contents:

[InternetShortcut]
 URL=https://onedrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=a64373456ert9943d&resid=A345654aC9943D!7844&type=3Code language: JavaScript (javascript)

Ok, so what does this all mean?

If you want to share your notebook between devices and/or other people then you need to use the OneNote program itself to plumb in the syncing. It needs to create or move the notebook and then tell OneDrive that you’re now using OneNote syncing, hiding the notebook and then leaving that shortcut placeholder.

What I actually want is a physical copy of my notebook so I can back it up

You can get that and still use OneDrive syncing. Under Options > Save & Backup you can tell OneNote to automatically place backups in a location that you dictate on schedule between once a minute and once every 6 weeks. Confusingly you could even set that backup folder to be on OneDrive where it would then sync the actual .one OneNote file(s) between your machines as you would expect.

Creating a local notebook
Creating a local notebook

But I really don’t want to use OneDrive

Firstly it’s worth noting that to use OneNote syncing to OneDrive you don’t need to install the OneDrive cloud sync software; it’s all built into OneNote.

But that said, if you really want to lose the ability to sync your notebook to mobile devices or if you are prepared to get sync conflicts when you share the notebook old-school using your cloud sync platform, then this is still an option for you.*

When creating a new notebook simply don’t select OneDrive as the location, choose This PC and select where you’d like to store the physical file.

If, however, you are already syncing your notebook via OneDrive then just use the export command. Export the page, section or entire notebook into the OneNote native format and you can put it wherever you want. OneNote will still be able to open it. You just cannot share it very easily (or effectively).

* this is not currently an option for iOS, Android or OSX versions of OneNote, your only option is to use OneDrive syncing.

Enabling OneDrive sync for a local notebook
Enabling OneDrive sync for a local notebook. Note the misleading message. You don’t ‘need to put it on OneDrive’, OneNote does!

I definitely want to start syncing using OneDrive so I can get my notebooks on all devices, how do I make it work?

Assuming you have a .one or .onepkg file created by OneNote you just open it normally; you don’t copy the notebook to OneDrive first.

Then go to File > Share. Select (or login) to your OneDrive and press Move Notebook.

All the magic now happens and you should eventually see the shortcut file in your OneDrive folder.

If you open the OneNote program on your phone or other device, that notebook should now be in the list of notebooks that you have available to open.

Summary

A lot of magic happens under the hood with OneNote syncing. To get it working you simply need to use the OneDrive syncing options within OneNote itself.

If you’d like to delve slightly deeper into how that syncing magic works then check out this blog post by Omar Atay, who works on the OneNote team and is the developer of Onetastic a very popular OneNote add-in.

More like this?

If you found this useful then you might like my OneNote blog as it covers similar topics.

Also, if you’re looking to super-charge your OneNote productivity then I have a book in the works that will help you Get Stuff Done with OneNote.


Comments

13 responses to “OneNote Sync To OneDrive Explained”

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  2. Frantic Avatar

    very helpful – thank you

  3. Chris K Avatar

    Maybe you can help me understand something I’m seeing. In an effort to clean up my Documents folder in OneDrive, I opened OneNote and used the File>Settings>Move option to move a Notebook into a new folder in Documents called “OneNote Projects”. When I navigate to that folder via OneDrive on the web the Notebook in there appears as a folder and not a OneNote object. If I open it I see several “.one” files that correspond to the Sections, along with a file called “Open Notebook.ontoc2”. If I click on any of these they just get downloaded.
    If I back out of this new “OneNote Projects” folder and into the main “Documents” folder then click on any of the other Notebooks they open in OneNote online.
    What is going on???

  4. This article has stopped me going crazy, thanks. So how do I permanently delete a notebook (I use a Mac and iPad). I found the URL’s but I assume deleting that from OneDrive only deletes the link to the content. I want to delete the actual content permanently.

  5. Bealers, fair play – well written. Perfect balance of info for the audience members genuinely interested in getting to grips with this issue properly! Only article I’ve read that clarified my confusion. Many Thanks!

  6. Mike M Avatar

    Thanks Bealers – I’ve worked in IT for a long time but until I read this I was having a lot of trouble working out what MS was up to with it’s syncing and local file storage. I suppose MS have their reasons for doing it this way, but I would have preferred more transparency (like dropbox does it for example).

    Having said that the latest version of OneNote (the app, not OneNote 2016) has in my opinion a much improved interface and it has become a really useful piece of software for me now. So far I’m not regretting the switch from Evernote.

  7. Lorraine Corcoran Avatar
    Lorraine Corcoran

    My daughter is at a college where most learners are on a PC but she uses a Mac. All use One Note via One drive. Sometimes the pages of notes that are sent by the teacher (word.doc to One Note) come through no problem. However, sometimes the Sync just doesn’t happen. Any idea why? Thank you

  8. This helped a lot of my confusion; thank you!

  9. Alter Ego Avatar

    Hi there everybody. Great article. Now let me explain my info migration issue, hoping somebody can give me a solution: I’m migrating my memos between LG ANDROID phones & I´m stuck having the old app (LG richnote v4.3.13) memos synced & stored in GOOGLE DRIVE & after analizing several memo apps (GOOGLE KEEP, EVERNOTE, SIMPLENOTE, etc), found that ONENOTE does have import/cloud functions. My question is: How can I transfer my memos (in HTML format) stored in GOOGLE DRIVE cloud to ONENOTE in my cellphone? Can I do it directly without transfering them to ONEDRIVE or downloading them to my laptop? Or how can I transfer them to ONEDRIVE first & then to ONENOTE in my cellphone? Help !!! I need those memos for my business. Thanx a lot everyone.

    1. Hi, if you use OneNote 2016 on Windows desktop then this plugin* might work for you.

      * https://www.onenotegem.com/document/import-text-files-folder-and-subfolders-tree-structure-into-onenote

  10. Chris Merchant Avatar
    Chris Merchant

    Old article by now but on the off chance you might pay attention and help:

    What about old notebooks that have been removed from all devices, and the web version, that STILL show up in “more notebooks?” When you have a lot of them, these now nonexistent notebooks showing up in that list makes it really cumbersome hiding and unhiding the real ones that still exist. Is there any way to get RID of these?

  11. I would highly recommend turning on the backup feature of standalone OneNote 2016(or 2013/2010…) because I’ve just lost an entire section stored on OneDrive. Win10 version can’t read it, iOS or online version can’t read it. Luckily I have local backup in OneNote 2016.

    To be able to use your notes across devices is wonderful and I can totally understand Microsoft’s priority to go cloud-based. But it’s still buggy. I set the backup to keep 9999 copies and backup interval to every day. You never know when it’s going to happen and you tend to forget what you have until you need the information.

    1. Daryl Hines Avatar
      Daryl Hines

      That’s valid point. I’m using Backupery for OneNote tool for my backups (I’m not using OneNote 2016), but for those who uses ON 2016 is a good choice.

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